Introduction
Recently the thing to do if you’re a YouTube tech reviewer is to find the oldest most rubbish motherboard you can and see if the RX 480 will work – it’s a lot of fun. I thought it might be interesting to get onboard this latest craze and in doing so, add a little twist by also testing with the GTX 1060.
So I began digging out the oldest and most forgotten about hardware in the office. My search turned up a few AM3 boards along with a couple of LGA1156 boards. The only “problem” was they all worked with the 480, booted into Windows, played games, and well… they worked.
Rather than head down to the local electronics recycling center to see what garbage they had lying around I gave up on the idea and instead changed gears to something else, something I feel is even more interesting.
Having already dusted off an old Core i5-750 system along with a Phenom II X4 955 system from the same era, I had a light bulb moment. Why not test both systems using the RX 480 and GTX 1060 to see how these new mid-range GPUs compare in old systems.
More than likely gamers making the upgrade to a current gen mid-range GPUs aren’t rocking the latest Core i7 processor overclocked to 4.5GHz. Instead many are probably running a more affordable previous generation Core i3 or Core i5 processor, or alternatively, one of AMD’s Phenom or FX processors.
So we’ve seen how the 480 and 1060 compare when they aren’t being restrained by CPU limitations, but how do they get on with a much lesser processor? In this video we’re going to find out. I should point out that neither the i5-750 or X4 955 have been overclocked or tweaked in any way. Included purely for comparison is my standard GPU test rig as I already have the results for both GPUs in this system. This is an overclocked PC so I’m not trying to make a direct comparison here but rather show how fast these mid-range GPUs are when not hampered by a system bottleneck.
Benchmarks
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Starting with The Witcher 3 we see that the GTX 1060 was 11% faster than the RX 480 on my 6700K test system. Moving to the i5-750 system reduced the 1060 performance by 30% but despite that the 1060 was still 10% faster than the RX 480 on the old Core i5 rig. Moving to the Phenom II X4 system the 1060 drops a further 11% down to 38 fps. Here we find that on the AMD system the RX 480 and 1060 deliver the same 38 fps average.

Star Wars Battlefront
For benchmarking Star Wars Battlefront we use a single player tutorial which isn’t very CPU demanding at all, making this primarily a GPU test. As such the GTX 1060 delivers very similar performance on all three systems. The RX 480 provides very similar performance on both the Intel rigs but does slow down quite a bit on the Phenom system.

Fallout 4
Fallout 4 is a massive system resource hog so I’m not surprised to see some major variations in performance here. That said the performance trends remain quite similar for the most part. Looking at the minimum frame rate the 1060 was 20% faster than the RX 480 on the Core i7-6700K test system. Meanwhile on the Core i5-750 system the 1060’s minimum frame rate was 27% higher. Finally on the Phenom II X4 system we find that the 1060 is just 5% faster.

Tom Clancy’s The Division
The Division shows pretty similar performance trends across all three systems and it’s really only the RX 480 & Phenom II X4 combo that sees a big hit in the minimum frame rate department.

ARMA 3
ARMA 3 isn’t a CPU intensive game… at least not in the way that many seem to believe. This game is poorly optimized and doesn’t utilize more than a single CPU thread heavily. As a result CPUs with strong single thread IPC performance win out. The highly clocked 6700K shows this as the GTX 1060 averaged 72 fps. This result was reduced to just 40 fps with the i5-750 and then 31 fps with the Phenom II X4. Interestingly the RX 480 actually compared better with the GTX 1060 on the slower processors.

Mirror’s Edge Catalyst
Mirror’s Edge Catalyst isn’t a CPU intensive game and as a result the margins remain fairly consistent across all three systems.

Total War: Warhammer [DX11]
Total War Warhammer is an interesting title that provided interesting results though be aware we only tested using the DX11 mode. The RX 480 actually looks better in relation to the GTX 1060 on the slower systems which is surprising.

DOOM
The Doom results are particularly telling and honestly I was expecting to see more results like this. Using either OpenGL or Vulkan we see that the RX 480 plays considerably worse than the GTX 1060 on the older systems.
While the RX 480 was faster on the 6700K system using Vulkan by a 16% margin, it’s actually 21% slower when using the Core i5-750 rig and 29% slower on the Phenom II system.

Ashes of the Singularity
Here we see DX12 does a good job of keeping the RX 480 in the game when testing on the slower systems. It was 15% slower than the 1060 on the 6700K test system when running the game in the DX11 mode. When we move to the Core i5-750 machine the 480 is now 35% slower. However using DX12 we see the same 6% decline in performance.

Conclusion
Well I didn’t manage to run into any compatibility issues with my Radeon RX 480 on these old systems but I did end up finding some interesting results. For the most part the 480 didn’t fare nearly as poorly against the GTX 1060 as I thought it might. There were of course exceptions though such as Doom and Ashes of the Singularity using DX11.
It was interesting, although admittedly not all that surprising, to see just how much slower these new mid-range graphics cards were on these old quad-core systems. It’s also been a long time since I’ve seen the Core i5-750 face the Phenom II X4 955 and honestly I had forgotten how much better the Intel processor was for gaming. The performance difference is likely being amplified by the use of modern games that take full advantage of quad-core processors, with the exception of ARMA 3.
In short it appears you’re going to see similar performance margins between the RX 480 and GTX 1060 on older hardware. On that note you’re also going to see considerably greater performance when using a modern processor or at least a relatively modern processor overclocked. I didn’t have time to overclock the Core i5 and Phenom II X4 processors for this video but perhaps I can do a more indepth video in the near future featuring more GPU and GPU configurations if you guys are keen to see it. What did you guys think of these results? Let me know in the comments

Definitely excited to see an overclocked benchmark for the old chips. I have a 860k OC 4.2 Ghz, which pretty much is same ballpark as an overclocked phenom and getting either of the the GPUs. Also the “potato masher” has an i5 750 at 3.7ghz, which performs exceptionally well for its age so it would be very exciting. Thanks for your hard work, and keep it up.
Thanks for the comment mate, definitely something I’ll look into
Can someone finally test Phenom II x6 and dx12 titles?
Interesting stuff man!
I have an i5 3330 with a GTX 1060 on order. It seems to be 50% better than an i5 750 in raw performance, but still far behind a 6700K. I wonder how badly the CPU will hold me up. I just hope I can get solid 60fps at ~High settings on my PC with that GPU and CPU combo along with 8GB of RAM.
Interesting and usefull test!
I have old phenom and I am considering gpu upgrade From old 560 to 1060, 1070 or 480. It would be nice to see what old gpu vs new cpu gives to you. Ofcourse I will miss some power, but any upgrade is most wellcome.
Great article. Other review sites test a $250 card with a $350 CPU. I personally spend more money on the GPU than CPU.
One interesting takeaway for me is that the gap between i7-750 with GTX 1060 and i7-6700k with RX480 is smaller than I thought it would be. Green team seems to be making better use of the CPU resources, and hence for an upgrade it is more effective to keep your existing CPU and get the 1060 (or 1070), compared to the RX480 + $350 CPU + $150 mobo.
is more effective to buy a 1060 with a low end CPU, compared to 480 which requires a fast CPU to reach it’s potential.
Thank you for this video.
I am running the i5 760 right now @ 4.15 GHz with my new GTX 1060 and so far the only CPU bottleneck i have encountered is on AC Unity.
Hi. Thanks for the article. im using i5 750. May i know what RAM size u use for the testing using i5? im having Hyper X 4GB RAM.
i tried to OC my 750 to 3.3Ghz. the Temperature goes up a lot using stock heat sink. any recommended Heat Sink?
Thanks Lot
I have an i5-750 running at 4.1 Ghz, I’m using the coolermaster hyper 212+ and it works like a charm, just make sure your PSU is good enough for OC
This article popped up in my google now feed and it’s the only article that I’ve seen that actually tested realistic rigs. It’s older and lower grade systems that people are buying these cards for. No one is buying a top tier cpu and then going lower tier gpu and then stressing about fps.
For the Author:
You stated for Total War & ARMA 3 that the 480 ‘looked better’ than the 1060 for the older CPU tests. However, in both cases the 1060 achieved better or equal FPS. You might want to clarify or correct those statements.
What I mean by that is it looked better performance wise relative to the 1060 on the slower CPUs in that instance.
Thanks for the review! I’m on 955+6850 now and want to buy 480 or 1060. This info about Doom really helps. And thanks for including Arma 3, my fav game!
Well, to think I was leaning toward the RX 480, I might lean the other way now.
Very interesting for old system upgraders. I have a X3470 ( i7-870 equivalent ) here which benchmarks pretty much on par with a stock clocked i5-6500 when pushed to 4ghz(1c)/3.6ghz(4c) and trades blows with the i5-6600 when 4ghz locked on all cores @ 100% load. It would be interesting to see the scaling from the i5-2500 ballpark up to i5-6600k at stock speeds and the numbers you got from the i7-6700k 4.5 ghz OC that you already have. To see where it stops scaling, if it stops and if the RX 480 eventually catches up before hitting 6700k OC perf.
You know, midrange GPU upgraders with budget/older CPUs.
It seems like you continue to wisely guide my upgrade decisions in the right direction, a few months ago it was that move from i5-750 to X3470 and now questioning the RX480 in favor of the GTX1060 because of scaling issues.
Thanks alot. 🙂
I have a phenom ii x4 955 black edition and I’m considering a 1060. Please help decide if I need to update my processor! I’d much rather get a 144hz monitor if I can skimp on the processor.
I just ordered spiffy new fans so I can oberclock that black edition. So, to be clear, I very much want to see your overclock follow up!
I would love to see your Intel Pentium vs Core i3 vs Core i5 vs Core i7 article updated using the latest videocards (RX 480, GTX 1060, GTX 1070, GTX 1080). I’m trying to find out at what point does spending more on the GPU gives you diminishing returns, versus needing to spend more on your CPU.
I’m sure nobody will pair a Pentium with a GTX 1080… but determining whether a Core i5 + GTX 1080 is better than a Core i7 + GTX 1070 can be a dilemma.
I have an i5 2400, with a GTX 460 in it. I’ve ordered a GTX 1060, which should arrive in a couple of days. Great article. Makes me feel more confident about pairing an older CPU with a new GPU. A 6700k is a distant dream for me, but with the new GPU I’m expecting good 1080p performance with decently high settings.
Please,tell later how the performance is. I’ve got core i5-2400 too. Though I upgraded with gtx 760 instead of broken gtx560ti, now gtx 1060 feels like just the right thing, gtx 760 unfortunately looses to modern 1080p gaming.
Great article mate! I have an i5-750 OC’ed @4.1 ghz with a RX 480, it runs smoothly so far, Metro Last Light Redux @60 fps without problems, I still need to try a more cpu demanding game, also looking forward to test the Doom on Vulkan.
Please test with core i5 750 overclock! and Nvidia 1060 and 1070. How is best graphic card good for core i5 750? I think 1070 maybe overkill…